HERB VAN KIRK INTERVIEW - ARRIVING IN IDAHO

One of the first few days on the job, I said "Don’t they get the day off when the temperature goes down to 20 below?" And the older CC or forest ranger or "L", LEM, which is a local employed man said "What do you want, the winter off?"

And then the other thing that impressed a few of us newcomers, where we were standing by the fire to warm up before we started work. And the one old timer, he went over in the dynamite box and picked up a stick of dynamite and broke it in half and said, "We need a little more heat here." And you can burn dynamite. It won’t blow up. But we were gone. We thought this guy had cracked up and we took off.